Cycling “Infrastructure”: Friend or Foe?

geoff said,

November 23, 2009 @ 12:05 pm

I think you are incorrectly grouping all European cycling infrastructure together. What you describe does not reflect what I saw in Germany, Holland or Denmark, most of which allowed quick riding(though not ass-hauling sprinting) to your destination without feeling in danger. In these countries, people know most urban bikes lanes are for bicycles and do not dare to walk on them.

Sad to hear that Vienna is not on par with other European metropoles — let’s blame it on the Hapsburgs!

Benjamin Mako Hill said,

November 23, 2009 @ 1:54 pm

Doesn’t seem that complex to me. If bikes are going to be kept in bike lanes and punished when they go outside, pedestrians and cars (and cars’ doors) need to be kept out. If that happens, things should be fine. If that doesn’t happen, then the regulations need to take account of this and build more flexibility in the system.

If we increase the number of cyclists to a significant part of the population, and bike infrastructure is aimed at doing exactly that, most of those cyclists are not going to be aggressive or fast. I think that probably makes it worth it. As a fast cyclist, I think we should work something out for folks like me as well, but I’m happy if my (admittedly smaller) group takes a back seat in this regard, as long as we’re not written out altogether.

Velouria said,

November 23, 2009 @ 3:30 pm

geoff – I’ve lived in Germany and have visited Holland a number of times, though before my cycling days. The way I remember it, Berlin, Cologne and Frankfurt were not too different from Vienna in terms of how the paths and lanes were organised – but perhaps I am not remembering it right. Amsterdam is of course very different, and the paths really do work there because of how the city is organised.

BMH – As far as I can tell, the police do not do much in Vienna to make sure that non-cyclists stay off the paths and that cars behave well on shared roads. Not sure about doors. However, cyclists are very much kept in line if they are to deviate from the prescribed infrastructure. Also, I am told that if a car hits a cyclist who is cycling outside of the designated bike lane, the car is not held accountable – so that alone scares most cyclists into following the rules. Does not seem like a well-balanced system to me : (

sean milnes said,

November 23, 2009 @ 4:01 pm

here in new haven we have the same sort of bike lanes. on the right in the door zone. we also have designated bike routes which, i suppose, are to keep drivers aware of the possibility of heavy bike traffic. the lanes dont actually link up in any specific way or lead you anywhere you may need to go. i did get to have a nice conversation with a bike cop one day. he said no matter what anyone tells me, traffic laws state cyclists are to be as far right as they can SAFELY ride and that he never rides any farther than the middle of the right lane. so i do the same. i imagine bike laws are different for every city. ive been doored once and hit 5 times in the 6 years ive been a bike commuter. until cities begin proper reform of their streets to transport cyclists safely, i say take the lane. ride in the middle of the lane where no one can miss you. madison, wisconsin and portland, oregon have really great cycling routes. amsterdam is amazing as well. there are foundations for city planners to emulate.

Velouria said,

November 23, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

sean – Hit 5 times in 6 years? Wow, I am sorry to hear that. The law in Mass is consistent with what the Connecticut cop told you; to ride “as far to the right as practicable” means not in the door zone. In Somerville and Cambridge, I have found the recent “sharrowing” of the roads very helpful in the way motorists behave towards cyclists; in my view these help considerably more than bike lanes.

Dottie said,

November 29, 2009 @ 6:55 pm

We would need cycling infrastructure that is more like Amsterdam and Copenhagen (at least what I’ve seen in pictures). I am not holding my breath and, in the meantime, am happier with the current set-up than with a situation that would require me legally to ride in the door zone.

Miguel Marcos said,

December 10, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

I just caught on to your blog via the baileyworks blog.

Regarding the above dilemma: I don’t even think infrastructure vs. vehicular cycling is really the issue at all. The issue is culture. There are lot’s of big towns in Europe *without* cycling infrastructure. I think the fundamental issue is that the members of society need to accept and respect the bicycle, regardless of its presence on or off the road. This must be coupled with respect on the part of cyclists for other vehicles and, above all, pedestrians.

I like your blog. (I live in Madrid, Spain, btw. A town with no infrastructure and terrible respect for bikes. Unfortunately. Barcelona is the opposite.)

Sean Megna said,

December 18, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

I agree with Marcus. I’ve been ridding in Boston for six years and the biggest problem I’ve had is simply that people don’t want us on the road. I’ve been pushed off the road several times by angry drivers because simply because i’m in their way. The problem is when there is and obstruction to on the side of the road and I have to merge with normal traffic. This is usually when I get hit in the head with a rear view mirror. When I confront drivers the answer is always “stay out of my road, I hope you learned your lesson.” Its ignorance and blind rage that is the problem. I get in arguments with people that intentionally threaten me with there vehicles on a day to day basis. As cyclists we are concidered in the way of both pedestrians and drivers and are given no options besides sidewalk or trafic. I believe that education is the best hope for the long term safety of urban riders. I realy think the “Sare The Road”mentality will help in the short term. I’ve had very few problems riding in the suburbs as people are more aware than I expect and roads are larger with fewer illigal right hand turns without warning. There is no universal ediquet to driving in Boston, the mode is usualy all in, whatever goes and hope for the best (people that drive like my mom). If drivers are held more resposible for agravated and agressive driving that puts everyone in danger than we will all be much safer. It’s rediculus that many of us need to worry if we’ll make it to work of school because of an inconvienience to anyone else.

Doug said,

February 26, 2010 @ 7:35 pm

I’ve ridden in Midtown Manhattan, Boston, Cambridge, and suburban Boston (Concord-area). I have always felt safest, by far, in Cambridge and Boston. The simple reason is (a) the expectation is that _drivers_ will not go fast, and (b) they are used to lots of bikers on the roads. A lot of this has to do with road design; I can easily keep up with the cars on poorly-timed lights on Cambridge street, and so I get respect – riding on any avenue in New York (save Broadway), which range from 3-6 lanes in one direction and staggered traffic lights, the bike is little more than a moving target to be cut off, doored, and taking up space.

In short, good manners are irrelevant compared to infrastructure accommodating to bicycles.

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